@Perchance, looking at the TextToImage plugin page again today the wrongness of the line ‘the same seed generates the exact same picture’ is sort of jarring since nothing else on the page is false nor misleading (that i kno of).

for those of you who dont know, the same seed generates a variety of similar pictures.

  • AdComfortable1514@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Perchance dev is correct here Allo ;

    the same seed will generate the exact same picture.

    If you see variety , it will be due to factors outside the SD model. That stuff happens.

    But it’s good that you fact check stuff.

    • allo@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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      2 months ago

      feel free to delve in to it and form your own conclusion. One observation is the amount of variation ‘seems’ related loosely to amount of tokens.

    • allo@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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      2 months ago

      It doesn’t. Noticed it long ago and some of us delved in to it ina post and VioneT explained it has to do with noise variations. The off part to me is the Perchance documentation saying a false thing, since that’s highly unusual and jarring with the rest of it; hence mentioning it

      • AdComfortable1514@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        I get it. I hope you don’t interpret this as arguing against results etc.

        What I want to say is ,

        If implemented correctly , same seed does give the same result for output for a given prompt.

        If there is variation , then something in the pipeline must be approximating things.

        This may be good (for performance) , or it may be bad.

        You are 100% correct in highlighting this issue to the dev.

        Though its not a legal document , or a science paper.

        Just a guide to explain seeds to newbies.

        Omitting non-essential information , for the sake of making the concept clearer , can be good too.

        • allo@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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          2 months ago

          3Tho I do not think this is one of those areas.

          Long ago I actually made a generator that was based off this concept of same seed = same image. After a decently long build time, it turned out that same seed does NOT equal same image and was an unforseen wrecking of that design concept; not just unforseen, but I had read this same sentence I am highlighting now and it is specifically this sentence that made it sound good to go but as an unexpected failure with wasted effort.

          It can be explained to newbies without causing harm. But right now it isn’t ‘ommitting nonessential info’. It is portraying something incorrectly and, if anyone uses the info for a generator using the concept of Same Seed = Same Image, they get pwned by the statement having been unexpectedly false.

          I do not know anywhere else in Perchance where something stated as true is actually false and if you use that info assuming it’s true you get pwned.