Why do these three being Democrats excuse the rest of the party being to the right of Reagan these days? Those people taking note can also take note of the liberals in the party crushing this bill just as hard as their Republican counterparts. Progressives always take a back seat to the corporate loving war mongers that make up a bulk of the party.
This is the exact reason why we need ranked choice voting, so that progressives can actually get some representation for once.
What are your ideas for enacting ranked choice voting that don’t involve leveraging the Democrats to make it happen?
It could maybe happen in individual states that allow citizen introduced ballot measures. That would be great. The scope and efficacy of that idea is pretty stunted though. You’d have to hope the measure passes in the first place, and counting on it to act as a catalyst for every other state to adopt the same is unrealistic. I’d expect a much longer time horizon on that approach than engaging with Democrats as far as making it the standard for the country at large.
That’s the other alternative I can think of to get the foot in the door, but I’m very open to hearing anything else that’s feasible.
Nowhere did I suggest that Democrats can’t be leveraged to pass this. I simply stated that the actions of a few party members doesn’t absolve the rest of the party of their actions and that it’s likely their fellow party members will crush this bill so that they can retain our two party system.
You’re right. Sorry about that. I don’t want to put words in your mouth.
I recognize the problem you bring up, and that’s exactly why I’ve said what else I’ve had to say in this thread. The person you were responding to still has a point in what they’re saying. I’m not convinced they were asking for absolution of the Dems as a whole.
Why do these three being Democrats excuse the rest of the party being to the right of Reagan these days? Those people taking note can also take note of the liberals in the party crushing this bill just as hard as their Republican counterparts. Progressives always take a back seat to the corporate loving war mongers that make up a bulk of the party.
This is the exact reason why we need ranked choice voting, so that progressives can actually get some representation for once.
What are your ideas for enacting ranked choice voting that don’t involve leveraging the Democrats to make it happen?
It could maybe happen in individual states that allow citizen introduced ballot measures. That would be great. The scope and efficacy of that idea is pretty stunted though. You’d have to hope the measure passes in the first place, and counting on it to act as a catalyst for every other state to adopt the same is unrealistic. I’d expect a much longer time horizon on that approach than engaging with Democrats as far as making it the standard for the country at large.
That’s the other alternative I can think of to get the foot in the door, but I’m very open to hearing anything else that’s feasible.
Nowhere did I suggest that Democrats can’t be leveraged to pass this. I simply stated that the actions of a few party members doesn’t absolve the rest of the party of their actions and that it’s likely their fellow party members will crush this bill so that they can retain our two party system.
You’re right. Sorry about that. I don’t want to put words in your mouth.
I recognize the problem you bring up, and that’s exactly why I’ve said what else I’ve had to say in this thread. The person you were responding to still has a point in what they’re saying. I’m not convinced they were asking for absolution of the Dems as a whole.