On Monday, the Supreme Court ruled that American presidents have “absolute immunity” from prosecution for any “official acts” they take while in office. For President Joe Biden, this should be great news. Suddenly a host of previously unthinkable options have opened up to him: He could dispatch Seal Team 6 to Mar-A-Lago with orders to neutralize the “primary threat to freedom and democracy” in the United States. He could issue an edict that all digital or physical evidence of his debate performance last week be destroyed. Or he could just use this chilling partisan decision, the latest 6-3 ruling in a term that was characterized by a staggering number of them, as an opportunity to finally embrace the movement to reform the Supreme Court.

But Biden is not planning to do any of that. Shortly after the Supreme Court delivered its decision in Trump v. The United States, the Biden campaign held a press call with surrogates, including Harry Dunn, a Capitol police officer who was on duty the day Trump supporters stormed the building on Jan. 6; Reps. Dan Goldman (D-N.Y.) and Jasmine Crockett (D-Texas); and deputy campaign manager Quentin Fulks.

Their message was simple: It’s terrifying to contemplate what Donald Trump might do with these powers if he’s reelected.

“We have to do everything in our power to stop him,” Fulks said.

Everything, that is, except take material action to rein in the increasingly lawless and openly right-wing Supreme Court.

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    I don’t understand how he can make changes to the Supreme Court using this new Supreme Court ruling. My understanding is that change requires Congress and the recent ruling just means he can’t be held accountable for crimes committed as official acts.

    What crimes are being suggested to change the Supreme Court?

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      Biden has been fighting Congress since he took office on this…

      When we had the numbers, he said he’d “look into it” and then we didn’t hear back till after the midterms when we no longer had the numbers to do it.

      The reason it wasn’t done when we could, is Joe Biden.

      https://abcnews.go.com/US/biden-support-expanding-supreme-court-white-house/story?id=85703773

      After he was elected, Biden appointed a 36-member bipartisan commission to study potential changes to the Supreme Court – including the addition of more seats, as well as term limits and a code of ethics for justices.

      The commission unanimously adopted a report late last year, in which they warned that excessive change to the institution could cause democracy to regress in the future.

      The panel found “considerable” support for 18-year term limits for justices, but the issue of expanding the court beyond nine seats was met with “profound disagreement.”

      Because the bipartisan commission claimed fixing it would do more harm then letting the current corrupt court do shit like repeal Roe v Wade and all the other shit Biden now says was so terrible.

      But if elected again, he still won’t fix.

      That’s a big reason Biden has a 37% approval rating, he opposed actually fixing things. And just wants to maintain the status quo.

      It’s not a valid long term strategy.

      Moderates just want to complain, they don’t want to actually fix shit. We’ve been ignoring it since Obama’s pick was stolen, ignoring it more won’t magically solve it.

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          He could throw them in prison extrajudicially for actions against the US government including treason for their support of 1/6… Hell, he can ship em to Gitmo even tho theyre US citizens.

          Although I’ve seen far less civilized but more permanent suggestions.

          It’s not even a crime, or false accusation.

          And as an official act, no one can go after Biden for it.

          If Biden believes trump is the threat he says he is, then he needs to do that. But ideally he would have expanded the SC back in 2021 when we had the numbers.

          Like, we’re backed into this corner because Biden decided to walk into it…

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            My understanding is many supporters of Biden don’t want a coup or fascism.

            If Biden engages in those acts wouldn’t that result in less votes and support? And also increase the chances republicans get away with a coup/facism?

            Also, my understanding is a supermajority is required in Congress to change the Supreme Court. Which we did not have in 2021. Am I wrong?

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              If Biden engages in those acts wouldn’t that result in less votes and support? And also increase the chances republicans get away with a coup/facism?

              Republicans are gonna republican. But we’re literally fight fascism so…

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

              Also, my understanding is a supermajority is required in Congress to change the Supreme Court. Which we did not have in 2021. Am I wrong?

              Can be done with a simple majority, which we had till 2022. If Dems really fought and tossed out the filibuster, but they didn’t.

              Instead Biden created a bipartisan committee to investigate if the corrupt Republican SC should be allowed to stand as is. He gave them 6 months, and after 2 years (as soon as Dems.lost the House) they decided we should just let it go.

              At every step, Biden and party leadership refuse to fight.

              We can’t afford that. If trump is as dangerous as they say (he is) then we need to actually fight.

              Even if we lose, it motivates voters for the next election.

              But he could still, this very day, arrest them for treason and jail them indefinitely and no one can stop him due to the SC’s recent ruling.

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                From what I’ve read, impeaching a Supreme Court justice requires the same impeachment process as the president so 2/3rds. Not a simple majority.

                But even if it could be done with a simple majority, your statement depends on the vote of Manchin and Sinema.

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                  He could throw them in prison extrajudicially for actions against the US government including treason for their support of 1/6… Hell, he can ship em to Gitmo even tho theyre US citizens.

                  I didn’t say anything about impeachment…

                  From 2020-2022 we could have added justices with a simple majority after throwing out the filibuster.

                  We didn’t.

                  We are running out of actions because we are running out of time. I wish Biden wouldn’t have wasted those two years with a bipartisan commission to find out if everything was fine…

                  But he did.

                  Due to the recent SC ruling, Biden faces no punishment for actions committed in office. So he can jail Clarence and everyone else who’s corrupt in jail and thus remove the conservative majority. Hell, legally he can have them executed for treason without trial, but I think Gitmo and no communication is more than enough.

                  There’s lots of people in GITMO who have done far less

                  If trump is the threat Biden says (he is) then we need to do whatever we can to prevent trump.

                  Do you disagree that trump is an existential threat to American democracy and we may never recover if he becomes president.

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    Fuck the Biden campaign, that should be their whole platform now. But instead they use it to threaten us.

    Edit: still, im voting for him…

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      That edit is the whole problem democrats don’t have any consequences for being shitty. If this election is so important than fucking do something popular Jesus Christ.

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    Biden has already prerecorded his congratulations to trump phone call and plans on sending it a week before the election. He believes it’s the only option available to him under the constitution and prevailing sense of political realism.

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    If you VOTE for the Person who CURRENTLY HAS THE POWER TO REIGN IN THE FASCIST COURT they’ll do something about the Court! Pinky Promise!

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    Getting to the point where someone might need to invade and liberate the United States.

    Come on, guys! We’ve got oil and everything!

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    Because it’s a stupid idea. Some Democrats and Liberals want to completely change our political system, judicial system, and Constitution, because thy’re not getting their way? It’s fucking stupid. Trump was in office and was able to appoint who he wanted…it’s pure luck that things worked out in his favor during his Presidency… t’s a cycle that will continue when he’s long gone and some hardcore liberal President does the same… we don’t change everything because one side is upset. STFU Democrats.

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        I love how I can be called every single name in the book on Lemmy and Reddit for having a different opinion, but for some reason, when I retaliate, I’m banned, threatened, or warned… funny how ultra Liberal these sites have become…

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        Ah yes, spoken like a true liberal. I’m a fucking moron for having a different opinion.

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          No, you’re a moron for having a moronic opinion.

          Trump had as many appointments because McConnells Senate held up hearing Garlands nomination (not to mention a record number of lower court appointments). And then rushed in Gorsuch. And then when RBG died even closer to an election, they showed their hypocrisy with Barrett.

          And the entire point of Project 2025 is to replace a metric shitton of non-political merit-based federal jobs with political appointments so he can staff them full of cronies and circumvent checks and balances that way. Congress won’t outlaw hormonal birth control? No worries, FDA can do that. Unitary Executive Theory.

          They do what they want, when they want, until somebody stops them. And now, legally, nobody can stop them. Not without using the monkeys paw that this court just handed Biden.

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      Except it wasn’t pure luck things worked out for Trumps term regarding the SC appointees. Obama was able to pick one or two which was blocked and vetoed and filibustered by the cons for years until their guy was there.